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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:16 am 
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Hi,

I've recently joined the IPv6 movement and I have some questions.
Keep in mind I'm trying to keep everything in the new environment as IPv6.
I'll replace the first 4 segments of my ipv6 address in this post to 1:2:3:4

Okey so I have a shiny new /64 ipv6 network.
Default Gateway is 1:2:3:4::1
Web Server IP 1:2:3:4::2
Firewall IP 1:2:3:4::3
I can ping out and in.

Now Here is my problem, I don't want a /64.
I'd much rather have two /65 and route 1:2:3:4:8000::0/65 via 1:2:3:4::3
My data center say they won't change my presented network to a /65 and route the other /65 over it.

Do I have any options or do I have to accept I cant have a route-able firewalled ipv6 network segment?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:49 am 
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In theory they should've given you a /48

When it comes to IPv6, forget about the number of IPs. What's important is the number of subnets. A /64 is a single subnet. You could break that into smaller chunks, but it's against RFC.

The RFC states that companies should be assigned /48s and not /64s. Tell your provider that you need more than a single subnet.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:53 am 
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I stand by the above. In the Netherlands, home users are assigned /48's by some ISP's, so surely a company can have one.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:43 am 
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If I ask for a /48 surely I'll have the same problem...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:52 am 
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why? you'll have 65536 subnets (/64) to use.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:00 am 
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just accept the fact that you can give every cell in your body an ip address and still have room to add your family.
ipv6 is just huge. but we wont be around to pick up the pieces when it runs out :)


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:01 am 
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Indeed. A /48 is 65k /64 subnets

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:41 am 
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But if they are not prepared to setup routes, then ill still have a /48 onlink


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:47 am 
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Tell them they are getting confused.

Or ask for 2 subnets

Or stick in your own router

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If they give you a /48, thats the only thing they'll need to route. Split it up to as many /64s as you need.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:37 am 
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srg wrote:
If they give you a /48, thats the only thing they'll need to route. Split it up to as many /64s as you need.


Okey maybe I'm getting confused.

With a /48 wouldn't it look like this?

ISP Router - 1:2:3::1/48 route 1:2:3::0/48 onlink
Firewall (Ext) - 1:2:3::2/48 route default 1:2:3::1
Firewall (Int) - 1:2:3:10::1/64 route 1:2:3:10::0/64 onlink (INT)
Web Server - 1:2:3:10::2/64 route default 1:2:3:10::1

ISP Router can talk to Firewall Ext
Firewall can talk to ISP Router and Web Server
Web Server can send packets out to ISP Router (but no return)
ISP Router can not send packets to Web Server


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:55 am 
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Indeed you should have a /48. We take the /48 and make /64 subnets for the network. In BGP we advertise:

1:2:3:8000::/49 - use link 1
1:2:3::0/48 - use link 1 AS-prepended. Used incase link 2 fails.
1:2:3::0/48 - use link 2

ISP allows us to advertise 5 IPv6 prefixes to the PEs.

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Resistance is futile, you will have a /48!

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