networking-forum.com
Community BlogCommunity Wiki * Register  * Search  * Login
View unanswered postsView active topics

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:35 am 
Offline
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:39 am
Posts: 1003
Certs: CCNP (R&S, Security), ITILv3 Foundation
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/01 ... rnet_loop/

I'm presuming that it was a spanning tree issue, of course.
Still, whoops.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:10 am 
Online
CCIE #38070
CCIE #38070
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:49 am
Posts: 12429
Location: London, UK
Certs: CCIE ,CC-NP/IP, JNCIP-SP, JNCIS-ENT, BC-/SPNE/NP
Yeah this affected us big time yesterday. Over 300 peers down. Traffic was all over the place. Our router CPU was going through the roof :(


Remember there is no such thing as a spanning-tree loop. Spanning-tree prevents loops. What you're looking at is a layer2 loop!

_________________
www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:31 am 
Offline
Ultimate Member
Ultimate Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:01 am
Posts: 669
Certs: CCNA,CCNP
Whoops a daisy!

Quote:
Linx is trying to determine where the loop originated and we are also addressing why the protection on Juniper's LAN didn't work


Perhaps someone didn't configure it? :dance:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:39 am 
Offline
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:01 pm
Posts: 5148
Location: Canada eh
Certs: 350-001, CCNP, CXFF, ITILv3F
I love how they used the very technical term "titsup" to describe what happened.

_________________
blog.brokennetwork.ca


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:42 am 
Offline
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:28 pm
Posts: 1091
Location: Houston, TX
Certs: MCSA, VCP4, CCNA, CCNA Security
Damn that would suck. Loops are a pain in the ass.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:50 am 
Online
CCIE #38070
CCIE #38070
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:49 am
Posts: 12429
Location: London, UK
Certs: CCIE ,CC-NP/IP, JNCIP-SP, JNCIS-ENT, BC-/SPNE/NP
Titsup indeed.

LINX has 2 discrete LANS. It used to be Extreme and Brocade, but they swapped out all the Brocade with Juniper in the last few months.

Around 16:30 yesterday I noticed a quick OSPF flap between my router connected to LINX and another router. When I logged on I saw the CPU was at around 99% and half my Linx sessions were down. I tried pinging a few neighbours on the Extreme LAN and it was very intermittent so I shut that link down and hoped that would be it. But 5 minutes later I was dropping half my peers on the Juniper LAN as well. So we shut that one as well. We still had transit but of course our transit providers are also connected at various peering points and the bigger players (BBC, Google, Facebook) are all on the Linx as well so it was a good 10 minutes of nothing working.

Either this new system they switched on was not properly tested, or a Linx member somehow bridged their 2 interfaces together. But that would've needed 2 member to do that so I don't think it's feasible. Either way we have not been given a good reason for what actually happened. At least 60 of my peers are down so they are not enabling their interfaces yet.

_________________
www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:53 am 
Online
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:12 pm
Posts: 2079
Location: Texas
Certs: CCNP, CCDP, CCIP
Infinite wrote:
I love how they used the very technical term "titsup" to describe what happened.

Glad you mentioned it I would have read right past that without a second thought!

Does suck though!! This is the new PTX 5000 they just deployed so Im wondering if it is a bug of some sort???

_________________
http://blog.movingonesandzeros.net/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:41 am 
Online
CCIE #38070
CCIE #38070
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:49 am
Posts: 12429
Location: London, UK
Certs: CCIE ,CC-NP/IP, JNCIP-SP, JNCIS-ENT, BC-/SPNE/NP
Just out of interest, this is what happened on our side


Attachments:
Interface.png
Interface.png [ 25.64 KiB | Viewed 485 times ]
cpu.png
cpu.png [ 8.09 KiB | Viewed 485 times ]

_________________
www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie/
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:13 am 
Offline
Ultimate Member
Ultimate Member

Joined: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:37 pm
Posts: 907
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Certs: Sec+, MCSE, MCITP:EA, CCNP
I like the photo caption - "Juniper's shiny PTX goes live..."

-Otanx


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:26 am 
Offline
Member
Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 1:39 pm
Posts: 183
Location: USA
Isn't that what the folks in the UK call a wobbly?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:35 am 
Online
CCIE #38070
CCIE #38070
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:49 am
Posts: 12429
Location: London, UK
Certs: CCIE ,CC-NP/IP, JNCIP-SP, JNCIS-ENT, BC-/SPNE/NP
We call it Tits

_________________
www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:42 am 
Online
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:15 pm
Posts: 8294
Location: Frederick MD
Certs: Instanity
mellowd wrote:
We call it Tits


I find that term sexist and derogatory, I am offended. I will be suing your country to stop it's usage and
monetary damages for pain and suffering I have experienced having this knowledge.

_________________
"If you're good at anticipating the human mind. It leaves nothing to chance."
-Jigsaw


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:46 am 
Online
CCIE #38070
CCIE #38070
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:49 am
Posts: 12429
Location: London, UK
Certs: CCIE ,CC-NP/IP, JNCIP-SP, JNCIS-ENT, BC-/SPNE/NP
Sue the country

_________________
www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:48 am 
Offline
Member
Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 1:39 pm
Posts: 183
Location: USA
I thought it was titsup? No?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:50 am 
Online
CCIE #38070
CCIE #38070
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:49 am
Posts: 12429
Location: London, UK
Certs: CCIE ,CC-NP/IP, JNCIP-SP, JNCIS-ENT, BC-/SPNE/NP
Depends if she's on her back

_________________
www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie/


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:58 am 
Offline
Member
Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue May 26, 2009 1:39 pm
Posts: 183
Location: USA
mellowd wrote:
Depends if she's on her back


:cheers:


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 12:32 pm 
Online
CCIE #38070
CCIE #38070
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:49 am
Posts: 12429
Location: London, UK
Certs: CCIE ,CC-NP/IP, JNCIP-SP, JNCIS-ENT, BC-/SPNE/NP
Another graph. This is the LINX traffic flow itself


Attachments:
LINX.png
LINX.png [ 11.02 KiB | Viewed 410 times ]

_________________
www.mellowd.co.uk/ccie/
Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:22 pm 
Offline
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:36 am
Posts: 2426
Location: Perth, Australia
Certs: CCNP, CCNA Voice, SMB Select, Linux+
ristau5741 wrote:
mellowd wrote:
We call it Tits


I find that term sexist and derogatory, I am offended. I will be suing your country to stop it's usage and
monetary damages for pain and suffering I have experienced having this knowledge.


Nothing wrong with tits.

_________________
"Right actions in the future are the best apologies for bad actions in the past."


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:23 pm 
Offline
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:36 am
Posts: 2426
Location: Perth, Australia
Certs: CCNP, CCNA Voice, SMB Select, Linux+
rolon wrote:
I thought it was titsup? No?


I thought it was tits up :)

_________________
"Right actions in the future are the best apologies for bad actions in the past."


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group