networking-forum.com

* Register   * Search  * Login
View unanswered postsView active topics

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:44 am 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:12 pm
Posts: 9
I have a site running a bunch of Cisco 1240 APs, to a Cisco 5508 WLC on a remote site. It's all running well. Yesterday, I added a new PoE switch, with two new APs hanging from it, to the site. One of the APs came up, updated its IOS, and just worked from scratch out of the box (as expected).

The other one (from the same batch of APs, of the same age, with the same IOS, same everything) connected to the same switch, refuses to be seen. I have swapped ports on the PoE switch, and the AP that works, does so whatever port it's on, and the one that doesn't, doesn't whatever port its on, so its not a switch issue.

The APs both show link LEDs on the switch, and both show activity (flashing LEDs) when plugged in. However, the WLC doesn't see the AP in CDP (or anywhere else). When they start up, the APs get all their base information from DHCP, including WLC address(via Opt43), which works with all the other APs on the site.

I'm a bit of a newbie to this scenario, and I'm remote from both the AP site and the WLC site, though I have full GUI access to the WLC. Is there a decent debugging/faultfinding document that I can use? All the other APs just dropped in and worked, which is great, except I haven't developed my own debug techniques...can I borrow yours???

Suggestions?

Thanks for any help
Jimbo


Top
 Profile  
 

 Post subject: Re: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:19 am 
Offline
Ultimate Member
Ultimate Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:58 am
Posts: 956
Location: DC/Nothern VA
Probably not a very likely cause, but have you checked that the WLC isn't already supporting the maximum number of APs?

_________________
http://packetlife.net/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:42 am 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:12 pm
Posts: 9
I wish it were that simple....but I have a 250-AP maximum on this WLC, and I'm gradually migrating the estate onto it, and there are only a couple of dozen on so far. Thanks for the thought, though..


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:00 am 
Online
Ultimate Member
Ultimate Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:16 pm
Posts: 853
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Certs: CCNA, CCNA:Sec
Does the PoE switch see the AP in the CDP table? It should also see it in a 'show power inline'.

_________________
"A problem well stated is a problem half solved". (Charles Kettering)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:03 am 
Offline
CCIE #18559
CCIE #18559
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:38 pm
Posts: 774
Location: 224.0.0.5
Certs: CCIE R&S
Best debug you can do when this happens from the WLC CLI

"debug capwap events enable"
"debug capwap details enable"

Depending on your code, replace capwap with lwapp. The debugs will usually give you a good indication as to why a new AP will fail to join a WLC.

HTH
-Derek

_________________
"Knowledge is contagious, infect"


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:15 pm 
Offline
Post Whore
Post Whore
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:36 pm
Posts: 1020
Location: USA
Certs: CCNA
Is this AP possibly associating to another WLC on your network? I've seen this happen before despite configuration done beforehand telling it to go to another WLC.

I just went to the WLC it was on and told it where it really should be going. :)

Dave

_________________
Taking the sh out of IT since 2005!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:09 am 
Online
Senior Member
Senior Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:43 pm
Posts: 383
Location: Atlanta, GA
Certs: CCNA, CCNA:V, CCDA, IPCXS
I've seen some nasty issues on some APs that were in prior service on a different WLC. Is yours "new" new? I've seen before when a previous WLC address is in there, the AP will still run the discovery state machine--and by all indications it looks like it SHOULD be working, but never even bothers trying to join a WLC that it discovers.

Anyways, this link below ought to serve as a starting point for basic troubleshooting. Having console access to the AP can help too if it's available remotely.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6 ... 8599.shtml


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:03 pm 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:12 pm
Posts: 25
Certs: CCNA, CCNP, CCNA-Wireless
I would make double sure the AP has LWAPP/CAPWAP IOS on it and not autonomous IOS. You never know, could have been shipped a wrong part (ie. wrong IOS), etc. If it is new out of the box, it would show up as "ap" under cdp on the switch, and you can telnet to the IP and log in with "Cisco/Cisco".


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:31 am 
Offline
New Member
New Member

Joined: Sun Feb 20, 2005 4:12 pm
Posts: 9
OK, armed with all the suggestions, I had a look, and found that the AP wasn't as "new" as I had been lead to believe! I logged on to it, and found that when it booted, it was seen by the adjacent switch via CDP for a while, then started warning about duplicate IP Addresses. Iwas able to log in and get the enable prompt, so I then issued the following commands:

#clear lwap private-config
#clear lwapp ap ip address
#clear lwapp ap hostname
#clear lwapp controller ip address

Once I had done all these, the AP automatically reloaded, and reconfigured from DHCP (with Opt43) It then loaded an image from the WLC, and rebooted again. Finaly, it came up and worked.

Many thanks to all responders, all useful help. I hope I can help you guys out in the future!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: AP Association Blues
PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:47 am 
Online
Senior Member
Senior Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:43 pm
Posts: 383
Location: Atlanta, GA
Certs: CCNA, CCNA:V, CCDA, IPCXS
:cheers:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group