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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 9:31 am 
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For all you people who use RANCID, do you use some scripting magic to add new devices on your network to RANCID automagically or do you do it manually?

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manually, it's not yet been approved for use in the production environment.
Fed here is against open source, they'd rather pay for something then
get a quality tool such as RANCID for free.

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From what I am seeing around the intertubez it looks like manual is the way. I guess the initial add is the pain and then the upkeep shouldn't be too bad.

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Scripted, but it's really simple since I only have to worry about a few non-cisco devices.


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Can't imagine automating adding a line to a text file. Its already simple enough.


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Seems the biggest hurdle I am seeing with scripting it is going to be figuring out a way to tell which vendor a device is.

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Can't imagine automating adding a line to a text file. Its already simple enough.
Simple enough if your environment is pretty much static or of a smaller size. That is not our case here. Plus a lot of left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing situations around here.

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McDudeface wrote:
Can't imagine automating adding a line to a text file. Its already simple enough.



Think big.


Automated here and I wouldn't consider where I work too big either.

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manually, it's not yet been approved for use in the production environment.
Fed here is against open source, they'd rather pay for something then
get a quality tool such as RANCID for free.


Just tell them most of the entire Internet depends on open-source, for example all the root servers.

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Wirerat, I like the new avatar..

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What scripting language do you guys find best for dealing with network equipment? For example if I wanted to throw a bunch of show-equivalent type commands from different vendors at a network device, capture the results, parse the results for certain keywords, and then add a line to a .conf file.

My "linux and scripting"-fu is very weak so the easier the scripting language is to learn the better.


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Wirerat, I like the new avatar..
issue #100
1 day, 5 hours, 53 minuets, 10 seconds before we find the fate of those who didn't go with rick to the hill top.
Thanks! I actually haven't started reading this story arc yet. Just finished up the previous one last night.

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Expect would be a nice start, as it's stupid simple to start doing basic things. The downside is that when you want to do more than the very basic, you need to learn a bit of Tcl. This might be an upside if you'd like to learn Tcl for use with Cisco gear.

I usually use Perl. There's a module available for just about everything.. SSH, SNMP, BGP, ...

Python is a very popular choice as well.

There shouldn't be any shortage in introduction material for any of these options.


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bertschs wrote:
Python is a very popular choice as well.


I've jumped on this band wagon too. The google dev channel on youtube has 6 videos which are an intro to python.

Not knowing a language at all I found the classes easy enough to follow even if I did have to rewind at times. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... ature=plcp

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