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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 5:41 am 
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Hi guys. This is my first post here. I'm sorry to upset you, but I'm pretty new to networking.

What I'm trying to go for is to make a Static IP so that I can forward my ports in order to play certain games. I have had my ports forwarded at one time with a different ISP (in the same area), however they used cable and the company I'm with now uses DSL. The company "Hawaiian Telcom" has provided me with a Motorola 2210 modem/router. I have had trouble trying to create a static IP with this router so (sorry if this was a stupid move) I decided to buy a linksys router to try to port forward with that. When my ports were forwarded with the previous ISP I was using a linksys router then. The now aged linksys router was replaced due to it getting wet, but that's besides the point.

Now I've googled, bing'd, and yahoo'd as much as I can and I have came up with some indefinite answers and lingering questions.

Is it true that ISP's can prevent you from having a static IP?
If that's so then can I port forward without needing to have one?

I've gone through the methods of logging into my internal IP and changing the settings on my (vista) network settings to only see that my external IP is not being changed at all. What am I doing wrong?

Can anyone please help me? :bowdown:


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ISPs give you a static or dynamic IP. It is not your choice. Use DDNS and regular port forwarding to make it simple if you have a dynamic IP.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:03 am 
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In my country, you pay extra for a static IP. You can port forward without a static IP, just set up the forwards, and write down your external IP. Usually when you don't turn of the modem and the router, the lease stays. If one of them does reset, just look up the new IP, the port forwards will stay.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:08 am 
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Your outside public IP does not need to be static in order for you to forward ports. However your internet address needs to be static if you want the router to keep forwarding those ports to the same PC.

Check your router manual to figure out how to do it

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 7:52 am 
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No matter what I do it seems like I always end up with the same address. I Google's more and I came across a topic of "2 routers on one LAN" could that be my problem? Maybe I should return my router if that is the case..

It is deemed doable but it looks way out of my league. All of that reading just flew right over my head. I couldn't understand most of it.

It seems like the more I try to do this the harder it seems to get for me.

Most of the tutorials I have followed were from portforward.com but I'm still having trouble with all of this.

I don't want to give up and I'm sure the problem is easier than I'm making it to be, but my experience with this stuff is closer to none.


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Let's start simple.
What is your goal? To make a certain service on a certain machine in your house reachable from the outside?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:23 am 
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My only goal is to port forward to play games. The other games mandate port forwarding and wont work otherwise. Its frustrating.


edit::

Maybe I should rephrase everything that's happened.

I am with an ISP under a DSL connection. The ISP provided me with a modem/router; the Motorola Netopia 2247 to be exact. I have gotten into the router settings and have tried to forward my ports from this tutorial I found online. It is the same ISP and router that I have.

http://www.htdsl.info/Motorola%202247-6 ... rding.html

I followed it step by step to no avail.

Now. I had an ISP before this that gave me a MODEM only. I had ONE router connected to it and I could port my forwards perfectly fine.
I assumed the root of the problem was the modem my ISP gave me so I bought a new one. The connections are different because I'm using DSL now rather than CABLE. So I had to connect my phone line to the motorola dsl then the ethernet from there and to my new router. I tried to forward my ports again and still got no results.

What am I doing wrong? I heard that I can call my ISP and ask for a simple modem that has no wireless or routing capabilities with just the modem itself. Is that true?

What should I do? I just want to forward my ports.


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If the ISP provided the hardware call their support line and ask them to assist with configuring it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:38 am 
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I haven't called my ISP yet but I would like to learn how to forward my ports without going through the trouble of calling them.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:06 am 
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I guess I did have to call them. The problem was beyond just port forwarding. The modem that was given to me (MOTOROLA 2247) actually had a high proprietary firewall setting that needed to be changed within command prompt. After doing that the application I wanted to use was no problem.

But then comes another problem that I have.

My PS3 is connected directly to my modem/router and I only get a NAT3 connection. I'd like to connect my PS3 on a NAT2 because I'm finding it very hard to find games online with this setting. I have again contacted my ISP about the problem and the rep that I spoke to has told me to :bridge: my router. I know how to set it to bridge mode, but I lose my wi-fi while doing this. Does this mean I'll have to use another router to have wi-fi at home again?

If I do end up using another router how will I end up port forwarding for my PS3 and my GGPO app I want to use? Will it be through my Linksys router or through the ISP's MOTOROLA router?

Thanks again for everyone's help I do appreciate it! I'm glad I'm learning something here guys!


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:08 pm 
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I dont really see why the router needs to be in bridge mode.
As far as i know, NAT3 is wireless, NAT2 is wired/wireless NAT1 is wired.

As long as you keep using wireless internet on your PS3, you will stay on NAT3
Go wired and disable the wireless stuff in the PS3, and youll go to NAT1

I dont actually own a PS3 so correct me if i am wrong.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:54 pm 
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Hi,
Did you find out how to play PS3 games online with the Hawaiian tel router? I also live in Hawaii and have been having problems trying to play my friend Madden 12 online. For some reason he was able to get Nat 2 (he also has Hawaiian tel), but I am stuck with Nat 3.
Thanks in advance


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