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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:53 pm 
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Hey guys.

I'm trying to get rid of some stuff I have laying around. Most of the stuff has been acquired over the years and I've been holding on to it mainly for lab purposes for testing. I'm currently CCNA, and would like to pursue my CCNP. What I would appreciate, is any advice you can give me on what I should keep and what I can spare without hurting me (too much) on the CCNP tests.

My current inventory (from memory):
Cisco 4000 Router x2
Cisco 3640 Router x4
Cisco 2621XM Router x2
Cisco 2621 Router x1
Cisco 1841 Router x4

Cisco 3750G Switch x6
Cisco 3550 Switch x1
Cisco 3500XL Switch x3
Cisco 1900 Switch x1

Not going to list the modules, but I mainly have serial, ethernet and one or two T1/E1 interfaces.

I'd also like to pursue some voice certs as well, so I'd like to keep anything that would benefit me for that as well.

Thanks!

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Cisco 3750G Switch x6


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:21 pm 
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Cisco 3750G Switch x6


:shock:



Yea, that's where it's at. Right time, right place.


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Keep 1x3550 and 2x3750 (4x3750 and no 3550 if you will go after CCIE )

Routers are up to you. Gns3 or dynamips will do the job and i dont think you will get much for the routers. You will do alright on the modules.

Or give all to Steve for a giveaway!!!!

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routers, I'd say keep

Cisco 3640 Router x4
Cisco 2621XM Router x2
Cisco 1841 Router x4

if you want a decent MPLS/VPN lab you'll need like 8 routers.

the 1841s should also help in the voice department.

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You don't need those 3750G's.....they're worthless. I can probably get you a few bucks for 'em..... :liar: :whistle:


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Okay, I'll be honest.
TravisT wrote:
My current inventory (from memory):
Cisco 4000 Router x2
- Not sure, seems old.
Cisco 3640 Router x4
- Keep for routing, does a lot. GNS3 does the same though so maybe not all four.
Cisco 2621XM Router x2
- Interesting, has value, but again, GNS3.
Cisco 2621 Router x1
- Little value, too little memory. Stops at IOS 12.3 basic.
Cisco 1841 Router x4
- Oooh nice, and GNS3 cannot completely replace that. Keep at least one, maybe two for S2S VPN stuff and the like.
Cisco 3750G Switch x6
- A layer 3 gigabit switch? Exact models? These sell for big numbers. Nevertheless, keep at least one for you home network (complete overkill but also complete control and high bandwidth) and for CCIE, keep 3 or 4. Also, name a price.
Cisco 3550 Switch x1
- A nice add-on but nothing too fancy these days. If you didn't have the 3750G's, this would have had more value for you.
Cisco 3500XL Switch x3
- Too old, no value. Command line is too different, not much functionality.
Cisco 1900 Switch x1
- 10 Mbps... Your best bet is selling it to a museum. Too old, even for practice.

Not going to list the modules, but I mainly have serial, ethernet and one or two T1/E1 interfaces.
- Serial is nice for Frame Relay labs, Ethernet always has a use. T1/E1 not that interesting as far as I know.

I'd also like to pursue some voice certs as well, so I'd like to keep anything that would benefit me for that as well.
- If any of your switches has PoE ports, keep that one. I've found it to be easier with IP Phones.

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Mmmm 3750s for a lab? You can send me one for my lab too :)


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Yeah, those G models have the built in wireless controllers. Attributing being in the right place at the right time is a dramatic understatement..Lets trade!!


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You don't need those 3750G's.....they're worthless. I can probably get you a few bucks for 'em..... :liar: :whistle:


I don't want to unload my "junk" on you. Send me your address and I'll donate the 4000M router or the 1900 switch. And so you're not greedy, only pick one of the two.

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Okay, I'll be honest.
TravisT wrote:
My current inventory (from memory):
Cisco 4000 Router x2
- Not sure, seems old.
Cisco 3640 Router x4
- Keep for routing, does a lot. GNS3 does the same though so maybe not all four.
Cisco 2621XM Router x2
- Interesting, has value, but again, GNS3.
Cisco 2621 Router x1
- Little value, too little memory. Stops at IOS 12.3 basic.
Cisco 1841 Router x4
- Oooh nice, and GNS3 cannot completely replace that. Keep at least one, maybe two for S2S VPN stuff and the like.
Cisco 3750G Switch x6
- A layer 3 gigabit switch? Exact models? These sell for big numbers. Nevertheless, keep at least one for you home network (complete overkill but also complete control and high bandwidth) and for CCIE, keep 3 or 4. Also, name a price.
Cisco 3550 Switch x1
- A nice add-on but nothing too fancy these days. If you didn't have the 3750G's, this would have had more value for you.
Cisco 3500XL Switch x3
- Too old, no value. Command line is too different, not much functionality.
Cisco 1900 Switch x1
- 10 Mbps... Your best bet is selling it to a museum. Too old, even for practice.

Not going to list the modules, but I mainly have serial, ethernet and one or two T1/E1 interfaces.
- Serial is nice for Frame Relay labs, Ethernet always has a use. T1/E1 not that interesting as far as I know.

I'd also like to pursue some voice certs as well, so I'd like to keep anything that would benefit me for that as well.
- If any of your switches has PoE ports, keep that one. I've found it to be easier with IP Phones.


The 4000M's are definitely old. They have a DB25 console connector on them - it's hard to even find a cable to connect to them.
The 3640's I'm a little torn on what to do. They are a pretty capable router, but being that I need to cut down on the amount of stuff I have, these are still on the chopping block. GNS3 is great, and so far can do just about everything that I've needed to do in it. These are also the biggest routers I have (size wise), and not sure they have a capability that the 1841's don't have.
The 2621XMs were grabbed because IIRC they can do some of the CME stuff. Never used them for that, but that may be something that GNS3 can't do.
The 2621 has no real value to me, other than I though about replacing the 3640 I'm using for my home network for space savings.
The 1841's are the latest addition to my pile of stuff, and I think it was a good add. Although I don't know exactly how they compare in features to the other hardware, I believe they can do everything and more than all of the other routers. If this is true, then I will probably hold on to them and let the others go. One will replace my home network router.

The 1900 switch is worse than you think - I bought it when first learning cisco back in '05 with very little cisco knowledge. When I received the router, I found that this particular model doesn't even have a command line - it's all menu driven.
I don't remember exactly which of the 3500/3550's are PoE but at least one is, because I used it on my IP phone before I got the 3750's.
The 3750's are where it's at. I don't even know the full capability of them, but given the switching tests for CCNP, I figured I shouldn't pass up the deal I got on them. They are PoE, so really no need for the 3500/3550's.

As for prices, I need to browse through the forum rules or PM Steve, don't remember if that's allowed. I'd love to be able to offer up any of the equipment here rather than on fleabay though - at least I know they would be going to a good home from someone on the forum.

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Mmmm 3750s for a lab? You can send me one for my lab too :)

Nice try... ;)

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Yeah, those G models have the built in wireless controllers. Attributing being in the right place at the right time is a dramatic understatement..Lets trade!!

Didn't even know that, but I wanted to pick up a couple APs to play around with. Knowing this, that may happen sooner rather than later.


As it stands, I'm leaning on keeping 4x 3750Gs, 4x 1841s, and maybe one 3640 and/or one 2621xm. Between the hardware and GNS3, I think this would give me enough capability to setup most scenarios for at least the CCNP. Thoughts?


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Just googled the 3750G wireless lan controller - don't think mine have that capability, they are the regular 1U switches, not the 2U with WLC integrated. I thought that sounded too good to be true.


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Thats some good equipment you have there, I actually faced a similar issue a couple months ago.
Important to remember, when buying equipment buy stuff that supports IPv6!

If it was up to me;

Keep all the 1841 routers because they have all the functionality you need to get up to CCNP even CCIE
Keep one of the 3640 as a frame relay switch (with like an NM-8A serial module) and sell the rest

Keep 1 of the 3750G switches (as an access switch for IP phones, CME server, home internet etc), and sell the others and get 4 3750 or 3560 (WS-C3750-24TS-S or PS-S for PoE) switches. they are 1/3 the price, have almost all the functionality you need now, but they are 10/100 instead of full gigabit like the G model.

The 2621XM are nice routers, and they can do Call Manager Express 4.1, could keep the two as CE routers for when you get to MPLS

The 2620 could be used as a terminal access server, would need to get a module like the NM-16A with the "octal" fanout cable. Not sure if it will be cheaper to sell and buy a 2500 with the terminal modules built in, but you can check it out. This device will give you a console connection to the network equipment via telnet, just like you were plugged in locally.

With all the money you make from selling (mainly the 3750G switches) you should get 2 3745 or if you can afford, 3845 routers. They will be your MPLS P routers with lots of NM slots for some additional NM-2fe2w (for extra FE ports) and a serial card to get it connected to the Frame Relay switch if you want as well. I plan to get an NM-NAM module for my P routers when I can afford it as well, just because.

Sell, dump or donate all the rest because you cant get anywhere with them today...


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Regarding console servers, I would skip the 2511 and NM-16A options, as they're unreasonably expensive compared to alternatives.

For example, I picked up a Digi CM-32 off eBay for $60.

Look for Digi, Cyclades, Lantronix, etc. the Digis are nice because they use straight-thru wiring, so you can use plain old 568a/b Ethernet patch cables to connect to your console ports.


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I've never really found that I needed a console server too badly. My IOS devices are rock solid when compared to my servers. What I'd love to pick up is a good KVM-over IP box.

That's not a bad price for the Digi box you mentioned. I'm almost second guessing if I couldn't use one after all...


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I've never really found that I needed a console server too badly. My IOS devices are rock solid when compared to my servers. What I'd love to pick up is a good KVM-over IP box.

That's not a bad price for the Digi box you mentioned. I'm almost second guessing if I couldn't use one after all...


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 3:07 pm 
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Anyone want to buy a Talk Talk Router?
In fact I'm giving it away I've finally replaced it with a Cisco 877 Wireless Router and boy does it Rock!
If anyones interested reply to this or send me a pm

I'm in Manchester England by the way ;)


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